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Post by Seahawks GM on Jan 29, 2010 13:29:01 GMT -5
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Post by ColtsGM on Feb 19, 2010 13:21:35 GMT -5
I'm just looking to clarify how player's salaries should be assigned based on the site.
Here's the info for Dallas Clark for example:
2/20/2008: Signed a six-year, $36 million contract. The deal includes $27 million in the first three years. Another $5.76 million is available through incentives. 2009: $3.3 million (+ $8.2 million "signing bonus"), 2010: $4 million, 2011: $4.2 million, 2012: $4.53 million, 2013: $5.33 million, 2014: Free Agent. Cap charges: $7.4 million (2009), $8.1 million (2010), $8.3 million (2011), $8.63 million (2012), $9.43 million (2013).
My understanding is that his contract for this league would look like this:
4 million (2010), 4.2 million (2011), 4.53 million (2012), 5.33 million (2013)
Is that accurate?
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Post by 49ERS GM on Feb 19, 2010 14:26:46 GMT -5
Commish runs 2 other football leagues that started last year and we just used the salary for 2009 for the life of the contract. However I do like the idea of using the different salaries for each year just for something different.
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Post by ColtsGM on Feb 19, 2010 15:36:13 GMT -5
Or we could do something like taking the average salary over the life of the contract. Since it seems like most contracts escalate over their life, I think it would undervalue contracts just to take the current year's number and apply it to all years.
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Post by mrslurpee on Feb 20, 2010 1:32:26 GMT -5
If Nate is running this like other leagues, then Dallas Clark's contract will be as follows...
Dallas Clark - $4,000,000 (2013)
That means that you will pay Clark 4 mil every year until the end of the 2013 season. Yes, it undervalues contracts a bit, but its the best way to do it. Often times, you'll get a contract that is so backloaded, but the first year is under 1 mil, so you have a guy who's contract is like 900,000 through 2014. It happens, but its the best way to do it. So basically, take the 2010 salary number and apply that to every year. If you want, you can take a look at the Chargers team thread to see how I set my team's salaries up. Its the same format that all of the league's I've been in with Nate have had.
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Post by Seahawks GM on Feb 20, 2010 12:38:35 GMT -5
If Nate is running this like other leagues, then Dallas Clark's contract will be as follows... Dallas Clark - $4,000,000 (2013) That means that you will pay Clark 4 mil every year until the end of the 2013 season. Yes, it undervalues contracts a bit, but its the best way to do it. Often times, you'll get a contract that is so backloaded, but the first year is under 1 mil, so you have a guy who's contract is like 900,000 through 2014. It happens, but its the best way to do it. So basically, take the 2010 salary number and apply that to every year. If you want, you can take a look at the Chargers team thread to see how I set my team's salaries up. Its the same format that all of the league's I've been in with Nate have had. Slurpee said it best...it's the best and least confusing way to run the league... |
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Post by ColtsGM on Feb 20, 2010 15:40:04 GMT -5
If Nate is running this like other leagues, then Dallas Clark's contract will be as follows... Dallas Clark - $4,000,000 (2013) That means that you will pay Clark 4 mil every year until the end of the 2013 season. Yes, it undervalues contracts a bit, but its the best way to do it. Often times, you'll get a contract that is so backloaded, but the first year is under 1 mil, so you have a guy who's contract is like 900,000 through 2014. It happens, but its the best way to do it. So basically, take the 2010 salary number and apply that to every year. If you want, you can take a look at the Chargers team thread to see how I set my team's salaries up. Its the same format that all of the league's I've been in with Nate have had. I get what you're saying, but I still think that averaging the total life of the contract is a better way of doing it. I mean, when we sign a guy in free agency, it's something like 4 years @ 5,000,000 per year for 20,000,000 total. By adding up a player's contract in real life and averaging it over the life of the contract, then we're basically treating real life contracts just as we will those in this league. Here are some examples of how undervalued the contracts will be for my players. The first is just the 2010 salary and the second is the average of the remaining years on their contracts: Dallas Clark 1) 4 million 2) 4.515 million Dwight Freeney 1) 8.825 million 2) 11.427 Bob Sanders 1) 2.275 2) 4.925 Reggie Wayne 1) 4.46 2) 5.29 One last thing is how are contracts that aren't spelled out by year handled? For example, Donald Brown signed a five year deal in 2009 worth $11.235 million. Isn't the only way to handle his contract to average it? Wouldn't it be best just to have a uniform method since we don't have the year-by-year data for all players? |
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Post by Seahawks GM on Feb 20, 2010 16:20:31 GMT -5
In the Donald Brown contract, we would have to average it out...Doing the average just creates ALOT more work for myself, as I keep a copy of each and every contract of this league...It's alot easier for myself and the league to just use the 2010 base salary.. You get some bargains, that's a good thing, right  |
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Post by ColtsGM on Feb 20, 2010 16:35:15 GMT -5
In the Donald Brown contract, we would have to average it out...Doing the average just creates ALOT more work for myself, as I keep a copy of each and every contract of this league...It's alot easier for myself and the league to just use the 2010 base salary.. You get some bargains, that's a good thing, right Yeah, I know. The only reason I bring it up is because I know the Colts are pretty stacked and I feel like it would be even more of an advantage this way. I'm not really complaining, though. |
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Post by Seahawks GM on Feb 20, 2010 17:25:56 GMT -5
lol The Colts are stacked....on offense, they can certainly have some upgrades on defense (thats why I didn't win my other league championship with the Colts last year HAHA then again, I did win with the Indy Buccaneers lol either way, w'ell use 2010 base salary for the duration and since you brought it up, you have to t rade me Carson Palmer |
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Post by Seahawks GM on Mar 26, 2010 1:29:12 GMT -5
Something that I didnt post anywhere and I'm not sure if we did it this way last year, but if it don't break it down year by year, divide the amount of guaranteed money by the numbber of years instead of the total contract since it's not fully guaranteed
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Player X signs a 6 year 60 million contract with 30 million guaranteed, instead of 10 mil a yr, it'd be 5 mil a yr since only 30 is guaranteed
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Post by Detroit Lions on Mar 26, 2010 20:22:39 GMT -5
and why is that sir?
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Post by Detroit Lions on Mar 30, 2010 0:29:38 GMT -5
if you are going to use gauranteed contracts, you should probably do it the right way and shorten the years to. for instance, albert haynesworth got 41 million gauranteed...but it is all over the first 4 years which are also gauranteed. if he plays past four years he is getting paid more than the 41 million without question. its not as tho it is performance based and 41 mill over the entire contract length is a possibility.
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Post by Seahawks GM on Mar 30, 2010 12:49:49 GMT -5
maybe but alot of players contracts do have performance based incentives in it that raise the total value by alot
right now were not gonna change the years as well but i will think it over for a few days
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Post by ColtsGM on Jul 6, 2010 23:40:37 GMT -5
When was the deadline for player contracts? Antoine Bethea signed a four year deal on June 11th, so I'm wondering if I should use his old or new contract.
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